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The Biden Recession
HockeyDad Offline
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You should be piling into stocks, worrying about government debt, AND fearing recession.

The only question is timing.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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And just like all if the Biden Administration economic numbers...the revision will wipe away all the gains months later. Itty bitty headlines on Page 11...buried under the Dear Abby column.
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Hershey announced layoffs Thursday after reporting its quarterly earnings were hit by the soaring cost of cocoa and inflation-weary shoppers who cut back on the company’s expensive chocolates and candies.

The Pennsylvania-based company said it would slash 5% of its workforce, resulting in as much as $60 million in severance.

It wasn’t immediately clear how many jobs among the company’s workforce of roughly 18,075 full-time and nearly 2,000 part-time staffers would be affected, or what teams would be impacted.

“We do not expect significant disruption or impact to our employee base with impact being less than 5% of our workforce,” a Hershey spokesperson told The Post on Thursday.

The Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups-maker said that the layoffs are part of a new multi-year productivity initiative to generate long-term savings as the company looks to offset declining sales in the face of rising cocoa, sugar and labor costs.

The move is intended to generate pre-tax costs of $200 million to $250 million from inception through 2026.
frankj1 Offline
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hopefully corporate bonuses won't be affected...HA!
Abrignac Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
hopefully corporate bonuses won't be affected...HA!


Let’s hope they are robust. That means the company did well.
HockeyDad Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
hopefully corporate bonuses won't be affected...HA!


I’m a little worried about this quarter.
RayR Offline
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I heard the soaring cost of cocoa is being caused by climate change, due to El Niño forecasted for next season and too much rain in West Africa. The price of cocoa beans has reached over $4,200 per metric ton, the highest in more than four decades.
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While testifying before the Senate Banking Committee on Thursday, Yellen admitted that prices for most items are unlikely to return to where they were before the inflation crisis began in 2021.

"I don't expect the level of prices to go down. Some prices will be higher than they were before the pandemic, and will stay higher," Yellen said during a contentious exchange with Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "But wages have risen considerably, and the pace of price increases has now receded over the past six months."

Prices for everything including groceries, new cars and health insurance surged in 2021 and 2022 as the result of rampant inflation, which was caused by pandemic-induced disruptions in the global supply chain, an extremely tight labor market and increased consumer demand fueled in part by stimulus cash.

But even though the pace of inflation has cooled sharply in recent months, prices for most goods have not yet receded — and are unlikely to do so, Yellen said.

"We don't have to get the prices down, because wages are going up," she said, noting that the median worker in the U.S. can buy the same basket of goods as they did in 2019 with $1,400 leftover. "So Americans, on average, are better off in spite of the fact that the level of prices is higher."

Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell echoed a similar sentiment in an interview with "60 Minutes" that aired on Sunday.

HockeyDad Offline
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I’m sure most would agree that the pay raises they got over the last few years outpaced inflation!
RayR Offline
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There are 3 kinds of lies...Lies, Damn Lies, and Government Statistics.
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(Reuters) - Network giant Cisco is planning to restructure its business which will include laying off thousands of employees, as it seeks to focus on high-growth areas, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

The San Jose, California-based company has a total employee count of 84,900 as of fiscal 2023, according to its website.

The company is still deciding on the total number of employees to be affected by the layoffs, one person said.

An announcement could come as early as next week, as the company prepares for its earnings call on Feb. 14.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m sure most would agree that the pay raises they got over the last few years outpaced inflation!



Um....
DrMaddVibe Offline
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For those keeping score...


1. Twitch: 35% of workforce
2. Roomba: 31% of workforce
3. Hasbro: 20% of workforce
4. LA Times: 20% of workforce
5. Spotify: 17% of workforce
6. Levi's: 15% of workforce
7. Xerox: 15% of workforce
8. Qualtrics: 14% of workforce
9. Wayfair: 13% of workforce
10. Duolingo: 10% of workforce
11. Washington Post: 10% of workforce
12: Snap: 10% of workforce
13. eBay: 9% of workforce
14. Business Insider: 8% of workforce
15. Paypal: 7% of workforce
16. Okta: 7% of workforce
17. Charles Schwab: 6% of workforce
18. Docusign: 6% of workforce
19. UPS: 2% of workforce
20. Blackrock: 3% of workforce
21. Citigroup: 20,000 employees
22. Pixar: 1,300 employees
RayR Offline
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Joe discovers rampant money printing and government spending causes inflation, where the dollar buys less than before. it's like a ripoff.
Well...not exactly, if he had that would have meant he had a brain with critical-thinking functions.


WHERE’S JOE? Senile Biden Skips Super Bowl Interview, Rants About ‘Ice Cream Cartons

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Joe Biden refused to sit-down for the annual Super Bowl interview this year, instead releasing a meandering video where he complained about the size of “ice cream cartons.”

“While you were Super Bowl shopping, did you notice smaller-than-usual products where the price stays the same? Folks are calling it Shrinkflation and it means companies are giving you less for every dollar you spend. I’m calling on the big consumer brands to put a stop to it,” wrote Biden.

More w/ Video

https://www.thefirsttv.com/wheres-joe-senile-biden-skips-super-bowl-interview-rants-about-ice-cream-cartons/
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Lefty didn't know that the Market would do that. Lefty thought they'd still get the same and more from you! Little do they realize their inability to deny self-gratification, Immediacy, the constant dumbing down of America would have on America is so few years!

What was their plan to replace that which they destroy?
RayR Offline
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Yes, dumbing down it is right from the Oval Office. It's those evil capitalists that have caused his ice cream cartons to get smaller. fog Eh?
rfenst Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
For those keeping score...


1. Twitch: 35% of workforce
2. Roomba: 31% of workforce
3. Hasbro: 20% of workforce
4. LA Times: 20% of workforce
5. Spotify: 17% of workforce
6. Levi's: 15% of workforce
7. Xerox: 15% of workforce
8. Qualtrics: 14% of workforce
9. Wayfair: 13% of workforce
10. Duolingo: 10% of workforce
11. Washington Post: 10% of workforce
12: Snap: 10% of workforce
13. eBay: 9% of workforce
14. Business Insider: 8% of workforce
15. Paypal: 7% of workforce
16. Okta: 7% of workforce
17. Charles Schwab: 6% of workforce
18. Docusign: 6% of workforce
19. UPS: 2% of workforce
20. Blackrock: 3% of workforce
21. Citigroup: 20,000 employees
22. Pixar: 1,300 employees

Quit bitching if you want to get inflation under control.
Layoffs are a symptom of expensive rates.
While a recession usually includes layoffs, layoffs do not necessarily mean there is a recession.
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Inflation not cooling. 3.9% inflation- same as last month.
Markets didn't like it. (S&P down 1.37%, NASDAQ down 1.80%, 1.35%).

Does that mean the recession is back on? It's a rolling sector recession as HD has been making the case for?

All in all good news for the Republicans, as the longer the economy sucks, the better for them in November.
RayR Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Inflation not cooling. 3.9% inflation- same as last month.
Markets didn't like it. (S&P down 1.37%, NASDAQ down 1.80%, 1.35%).

Does that mean the recession is back on? It's a rolling sector recession as HD has been making the case for?

All in all good news for the Republicans, as the longer the economy sucks, the better for them in November.


The funny thing about recessions is they occur more often when the company line is "the economy is strong".

Which makes me more interested in the opinions of the dissidents.

The US now has an 85% chance of recession in 2024, the highest probability since the Great Financial Crisis, economist David Rosenberg says

Matthew Fox
Feb 12, 2024, 1:27 PM EST

Quote:
* There's an 85% chance the US economy will enter a recession in 2024, the economist David Rosenberg says.

* He highlighted a relatively new economic model that has proven to be more timely than the yield-curve indicator.

* "Our conviction that the recession has been delayed but not derailed is still running at a high level," Rosenberg said.

More...

https://www.businessinsider.com/recession-outlook-financial-crisis-economy-federal-reserve-yield-curve-rosenberg-2024-2





Abrignac Offline
#270 Posted:
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Ok Henny Penny I'll bite.

DrMaddVibe wrote:
For those keeping score...

1. Twitch: 35% of workforce

REUTERS - 6:31 PM ET 1/9/2024 - Amazon.com's ( AMZN ) streaming unit Twitch is set to cut 35% of its staff, or about 500 workers, Bloomberg News reported on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the plans.
The move could be announced as soon as Wednesday, the report added.

The business remains unprofitable nine years after Amazon's ( AMZN ) acquisition of the company, the report said.

Twitch CEO Dan Clancy said in December that the company would shut down operations in South Korea in February this year, due to high operating costs and network fees.

The company had laid off more than 400 employees in March last year after its user and revenue growth did not meet expectations.

1) In what world is the loss of 500 jobs a meaningful measure of the US economy?
2) It should be no surprise that a company that has been unprofitable for 9 years is cutting its workforce.
3) This more an example of a company that is about to go under because it's not a viable entity, current state of the economy notwithstanding.


STRIKE 1, Henny Penny!


2. Roomba: 31% of workforce

MT NEWSWIRES - 11:16 AM ET 1/29/2024The Roomba maker separately on Monday said it launched an operational restructuring plan that will eliminate 350 positions, or 31% of its workforce. The company expects to record restructuring charges of $12 million to $13 million over the first two quarters of 2024 due primarily to severance and other related costs.

REUTERS - 5:59 PM ET 1/18/2024 -The European Union's competition watchdog plans to block Amazon.com's ( AMZN ) $1.4 billion acquisition of robot vacuum maker iRobot, The Wall Street Journal said on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter.

Shares of the Roomba vacuum maker plunged nearly 40% to $14.3 in trading after the bell.


3. Hasbro: 20% of workforce

Forbes Feb 13, 2024,11:50am EST - Hasbro also had to clear out a tremendous amount of excess inventory, Zahn said. “We saw it show up in the value channel last fall,” he said. “Off-price retailers including Ollie’s, Ross Dress for Less, Marshall’s, T.J. Maxx and Burlington had top-quality Hasbro products for pennies on the dollar during the holiday season.”

PAWTUCKET, R.I.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 26, 2023 - In October 2022, the Company announced a goal of delivering $250-300 million in annualized run-rate cost savings by year-end 2025. In alignment with this program’s objectives, the Company is undertaking organizational changes that will result in the elimination of approximately 1,000 positions from its global workforce this year, or approximately 15% of global full-time employees. The changes will include a new organizational model, commercial alignment, and leadership changes that the Company will discuss in more detail on its upcoming earnings conference call.

CNBC DEC 12 20231:52 PM EST - Popular toy brand sales had dropped significantly, Hasbro also said in the October quarterly report. Popular brands like My Little Pony, Nerf and Transformer had fallen 18% at the time, due to “softer category trends.”

Hasbro’s stock was down nearly 20% through Monday’s close.

Hasbro competitor Mattel had also warned of soft sales. Yet Mattel’s stock is up about 6% through Monday, powered a great deal by the box office success of the film “Barbie.” That’s still behind the 17% gain posted by the S&P 500 so far this year, though.

AP - Updated 7:08 PM CST, December 11, 2023 - Like many toy companies, Hasbro is struggling with a slowdown in sales after a surge during pandemic lockdowns when parents were splurging on toys to keep their children busy.

Last holiday season, many toy companies had to slash prices to get rid of merchandise due to weak demand. And the challenges have continued. Toy sales in the U.S. were down 8% from January through August, based on Circana’s most recent data.

Fortune January 26, 2023 at 5:30 PM CST - As part of a restructuring announced in October, Hasbro asked JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Centerview Partners to steer a sale process for most of its Entertainment One film and TV division after a large number of potential buyers came forward.

Bloomburg August 21, 2022 at 5:00 PM CDT - In August 2019, Hasbro Inc. announced it was paying about $4 billion to acquire Entertainment One (eOne), the Canadian media company best known for the kids’ TV series “Peppa Pig” and “PJ Masks.”


1) Over the years Hasboro has expanded by increasing it's own brands as well as purchasing other ongoing concerns. Doing so it hasn't integrated those expansions efficiently. The workforce downsizing is a natural occurrence when a company experiences less than expected profitability.

2) Hasbro bought a poorly performing media company and wasn't able to turn it around.



STRIKE 3, Henny Penny!


4. LA Times: 20% of workforce

CNN - Updated 6:20 PM EST, Tue January 23, 2024“This staffing cut is the fruit of years of middling strategy, the absence of a publisher, and no clear direction,” the union said in a statement. “But it’s clear that those entrusted to steward [the Soon-Shiong] family’s largesse have failed him — not the rank-and-file staff members with no say in editorial priorities.”

AP Updated 6:16 PM CST, January 23, 2024 - The Los Angeles Times said it planned to lay off at least 115 employees — more than 20% of the newsroom — starting Tuesday, one of the largest staff cuts in the newspaper’s 143-year history.

The cuts were necessary because the Times could no longer lose up to $40 million a year without boosting advertising and subscription revenue, the paper’s owner, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, said Tuesday.

The Wrap - March 25, 2021 @ 1:10 PM - The Los Angeles Times and the San Diego Union-Tribune lost “north of $50 million” in revenue in 2020, company leadership told staffers at an all-hands meeting on Thursday. Chris Argentieri, the president of the two papers’ California Times parent company, described the losses as a “catastrophic drop in revenue for the company north of $50 million on top of a business that was already using cash and not producing cash,” according to a recording of the meeting obtained by TheWrap. The majority of the losses came from print advertising, though digital advertising and print circulation also sustained some losses. “What we saw in 2020 was [an] acceleration of trends that we were well aware of and have been aware of, really, for far more than a decade,” Argentieri said. “We won’t go back, particularly in print advertising, to where we were.”


1) The 20% you quote is newsroom staff, not the business itself.

2) The LA Times has been losing money for many, many years. It's no surprise that the cuts were made, recession or not.



STRIKE 4, Henny Penny!


Maybe I'll take a look at the others. But so far, it's looking like the "Biden Recession" has little to do with any of the companies you've posted so far.

Abrignac Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Quit bitching if you want to get inflation under control.
Layoffs are a symptom of expensive rates.
While a recession usually includes layoffs, layoffs do not necessarily mean there is a recession.


And of companies making cost cutting moves when profit margins shrink.
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Cisco, the San Jose-based networking and telecommunications giant, is laying off 5% of its workforce.

The company announced the cuts in a Wednesday filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, alongside its quarterly earnings report. Based on the company’s reported head count, the layoffs will hit at least 4,000 workers. Cisco wrote in the filing that the cuts are aimed to “realign the organization and enable further investment in key priority areas.”
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CA instituted a $15 minimum wage and whataya think that's gonna do??

I would wager that A) Prices are going to increase in fast food joints and B) automation is going to take the place of every $15 an hour job that it can and more jobs will be lost.

It's like they have no idea what economics is... Frying pan
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Speaking of Economics, heard the tail end yesterday Jeff Besos is moving from Washington state to Florida for the no state income tax. It is estimated he will save 600 million dollars.

Or, more importantly, Washington is losing 600 million in tax revenue.

Related note. The report also said in California, the richest 1% of the state pay better than 40% of taxes in the state. Another 999 HockeyDads and that state is in deeper, big trouble.

There should be a mandatory economics class for incoming congress people.
HockeyDad Offline
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MACS wrote:
CA instituted a $15 minimum wage and whataya think that's gonna do??

I would wager that A) Prices are going to increase in fast food joints and B) automation is going to take the place of every $15 an hour job that it can and more jobs will be lost.

It's like they have no idea what economics is... Frying pan


They passed another law setting up a fast food labor commission and now fast food workers get $20 an hour.

In unrelated news, fast food workers will be replaced by kiosks.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Speaking of Economics, heard the tail end yesterday Jeff Besos is moving from Washington state to Florida for the no state income tax. It is estimated he will save 600 million dollars.

Or, more importantly, Washington is losing 600 million in tax revenue.

Related note. The report also said in California, the richest 1% of the state pay better than 40% of taxes in the state. Another 999 HockeyDads and that state is in deeper, big trouble.

There should be a mandatory economics class for incoming congress people.


When we left San Francisco about a year ago both our jobs went with us. We stayed with our companies and took our jobs with us and they were not backfilled. That income tax revenue vanished but also sales taxes and other fees. Poof…..gone.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
And just like all if the Biden Administration economic numbers...the revision will wipe away all the gains months later. Itty bitty headlines on Page 11...buried under the Dear Abby column.


Oh wait...here it is!


https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/08/jobs-report-february-2024-us-job-growth-totaled-275000.html

Boy, that didn't take long.
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Press are good little doggies….
RayR Offline
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"Government again was a big contributor, with 52,000" jobs.

Adding even more tax parasites to the largest employer in the country is a negative contribution to the economy.
RayR Offline
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Grandma Yellen is sorry. Boo hoo!

TOO LATE: Biden Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen Says She Regrets Saying That Inflation Was ‘Transitory’ (VIDEO)

by Mike LaChance Mar. 13, 2024 10:20 pm
Quote:

During a recent appearance on the FOX Business Network, Biden Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said that she regrets her previous claim that inflation was transitory.

That’s quite an admission.

In January of this year, Yellen conceded that Americans are not likely to see prices come down any time soon, contradicting comments from Biden.

Is someone slipping truth serum into her coffee?

Transcript via Real Clear Politics:
Quote:

EDWARD LAWRENCE, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK: But, when you talk about prices, the CPI inflation has had a 3 in front of it since July of last year. Why is Jamie Dimon wrong then when he’s saying the worst case is stagflation?

YELLEN: Well, I don’t think we’re going to see stagflation. Most forecasters believe we’re on a path where inflation will come down over time.

The single biggest contributor to inflation is housing costs. And we can see, when we look at the market for new rental apartments, that, in many parts of the country, rental prices for new apartments have actually declined overall, flat to slightly down. It takes a while for that to filter into the CPI.

And so I have every expectation that the single largest contributor to it, to inflation is going to be moving down over this year.

LAWRENCE: And that will bring the rest of it with it. So, you — in 2021, though, you did say that inflation was transitory. Do you regret saying that now?

YELLEN: I regret saying it was transitory. It has come down, but I think transitory means a few weeks or months to most people, and that — it’s lasted longer than that.


More...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/too-late-biden-treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-says/
RayR Offline
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For thousands of years, regimes have debased the value of their money, and when the people complained why they had to pay more for the same amount of goods or why they were getting fewer goods for the same amount of money that they were spending before (shrinkflation), their dicktator would usually blame it on greedy merchants.
Times haven't changed much other than creating new ways to debase currency like fiat money and central banks.
So when Lyin' Joe Biden and his ilk blame shrinkflation on greedy capitalists, smart people know who is really to blame.
Stupid people believe Joe Biden.


Blame the Fed for ‘Shrinkflation’

By Ron Paul, MD
The Ron Paul Institute
March 19, 2024

Quote:
President Biden may have recently made history as the first president to discuss snack chips in the State of the Union message. He used snack chips to illustrate the phenomenon of shrinkflation. Shrinkflation occurs when businesses reduce the amount of goods sold in order to avoid raising prices. President Biden pointed out that businesses hope that, since both the price and the size of the package remain the same, most consumers will not notice they are getting fewer chips, cookies, or whatever other product has been affected by shrinkflation.

President Biden called on Congress to pass legislation, sponsored by so-called moderate Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, to crack down on companies that reduce the amount of a good in a package. Biden and his congressional allies and media apologists think that this will stop shrinkflation. They think this because they believe shrinkflation is caused by corporate greed. In fact, shrinkflation is a rational response to increased prices caused by the Federal Reserve’s dollar depreciation.

Businesses reduce the amount of a product sold as a means to cope with rising prices of materials needed to make their products without directly raising the price paid by consumers. Unless greed is the only human emotion that fluctuates with the Federal Reserve’s policies, the fact that shrinkflation only occurs when Federal Reserve policies cause major price inflation should show anyone willing to think logically about these issues that the Fed, not greedy businesses, cause shrinkflation.

MORE...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/03/ron-paul/blame-the-fed-for-shrinkflation/
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and back on Page 12...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/philadelphia-fed-admits-us-payrolls-overstated-least-800000

Nothing is built, Nothing is back and Nothing is better.

Biden has been EXACTLY what Trump warned America it would be. Only it's much much worse.
RayR Offline
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As I keep saying, there are 3 kinds of lies...LIES, DAMN LIES and GOVERNMENT STATISTICS.
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'Expectations' Plunge To 11-Year-Lows As Conference Board Confidence Craters



For the third straight month, The Conference Board's consumer confidence index fell in April, tumbling to 97.0 from a downwardly revised 103.1 (dramatically below the 104.0 median expectation and in fact below the lowest of all 56 analysts' estimates). Both current conditions and expectations plunged, with the latter at its weakest since

Present situation confidence fell to 142.9 vs. 146.8 last month

Consumer confidence expectations fell to 66.4 vs. 74.0 last month

Expectations are back to Summer 2022 lows, which are equal to April 2013 lows...

Borish: The Fed is Sprinting in Place


Most notably, this is the sixth straight month of downward revisions...


That is 14.6pts of confidence erased in six months... to which we ask - in all honesty - WTF is a 'revised' sentiment measure? How do you feel now about how you felt a month ago?

The Board's labor market indicator trended notably weaker...


Finally, fewer of those surveyed believe stock prices will be higher and interests lower...


All things considered, that survey was a ****show for Bidenomics... but remember, you've never had it so good...

WATCH: Nancy Pelosi nearly has a seizure on-air when Katy Tur gently reminds her of the reality that Biden's "record" job gains are just because of massive Covid job losses in blue states 👀pic.twitter.com/oI0b6NcjII
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) April 29, 2024

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/expectations-plunge-11-year-lows-conference-board-confidence-craters
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HockeyDad wrote:
Hershey announced layoffs Thursday after reporting its quarterly earnings were hit by the soaring cost of cocoa and inflation-weary shoppers who cut back on the company’s expensive chocolates and candies.

The Pennsylvania-based company said it would slash 5% of its workforce, resulting in as much as $60 million in severance.

It wasn’t immediately clear how many jobs among the company’s workforce of roughly 18,075 full-time and nearly 2,000 part-time staffers would be affected, or what teams would be impacted.

“We do not expect significant disruption or impact to our employee base with impact being less than 5% of our workforce,” a Hershey spokesperson told The Post on Thursday.

The Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups-maker said that the layoffs are part of a new multi-year productivity initiative to generate long-term savings as the company looks to offset declining sales in the face of rising cocoa, sugar and labor costs.

The move is intended to generate pre-tax costs of $200 million to $250 million from inception through 2026.


HDad, I watched a documentary on the cocoa industry. It seems that even “fair trade” cocoa ends up having cocoa that was harvested with slave labor in Africa. I suppose you already know that there are more slaves now than there was in the 19th Century before all nations had outlawed slavery. It’s the same with cotton by the way. And tea and coffee. But cocoa and cotton and diamonds are the worst agricultural products IRT slave labor. You may wonder why I’m mentioning this. It’s because we don’t hear from the coffee swilling, tea sipping, hoodie wearing, chocolate munching, bling bling lefties. They have all their SJW crusades that are misguided and they’re too hypocritical, lack curiosity, and are too intellectually lazy to know any better. I suppose I’m just ranting a bit for sake of conversation.
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jeebling wrote:
HDad, I watched a documentary on the cocoa industry. It seems that even “fair trade” cocoa ends up having cocoa that was harvested with slave labor in Africa. I suppose you already know that there are more slaves now than there was in the 19th Century before all nations had outlawed slavery. It’s the same with cotton by the way. And tea and coffee. But cocoa and cotton and diamonds are the worst agricultural products IRT slave labor. You may wonder why I’m mentioning this. It’s because we don’t hear from the coffee swilling, tea sipping, hoodie wearing, chocolate munching, bling bling lefties. They have all their SJW crusades that are misguided and they’re too hypocritical, lack curiosity, and are too intellectually lazy to know any better. I suppose I’m just ranting a bit for sake of conversation.



It’s ok…

Carry on my wayward son….
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Job Openings Tumble, Quits Plunge, Hires Unexpectedly Crater To January 2018 Levels



After several months of relatively boring JOLTS prints, this morning Janet Yellen's favorite labor market indicator once again got exciting, and not in a good way.

Starting at the top, according to the March JOLTS reported, job openings unexpectedly tumbled by 325K - the biggest drop since October 2023 - from an upward revised 8.813 million in February to just 8.488 million, far below the 8.690 million expected - and the lowest number since February 2021 when it last printed below 8 million.

The 192K miss to estimates of 8.690 million, was the biggest since last October.

According to the DOL, in March job openings decreased in construction (-182,000) and in finance and insurance (-158,000), but increased in state and local government education (+68,000) because when all else fails, just "hire" more government zombies, ideally in the form of unionized illegal aliens to boost wages and inflation.

The kicker: construction jobs openings plunged from 456K to 274K, a 182K one-month drop and the biggest on record!

In the context of the broader jobs report, in March the number of job openings was 2.059 million more than the number of unemployed workers (which the BLS reported was 6.429 million), down significantly from last month's 2.355 million and the lowest since June 2021.

Said otherwise, in March the number of job openings to unemployed dropped to 1.32, a sharp slide from the February print of 1.36, matching the lowest level since August 2021 and almost back to pre-covid levels of 1.3.

But even more interesting than the drop in job openings was the number of quits: here we find that the number of people quitting their jobs, an indicator closely associated with labor market strength as it shows workers are confident they can find a better wage elsewhere - unexpectedly plunged by 198K, the biggest montyly drop since last June, to just 3.329 million the lowest number since January 2021!

But perhaps the most notable twist, is that amid the stagnant level of job openings, not only did the number of quits plunge - as workers no longer expect to find better paying jobs elsewhere - but so did the number of hires, which cratered by 281K to just 5.500 million - the lowest since Jan 2018 (excluding the record one-month plunge due to covid), and is now well below pre-covid levels.

Needless to say, a freeze in hiring is always the precursor to a wholesale collapse in the labor market, which we expect will materialize in 2-3 months, but since the election will determine what econ data is published, expect the US economy to be in freefall the moment Trump wins the election.

It's not just us warning on this metric: the chief economist as Glassdoor, Daniel Zhao, echoes our warning that "employers are hesitant to hire & workers are hesitant to switch to a new job"

Softness in the hires & quits rates are a concern: The hires rate fell to 3.5%, matching the lowest post-pandemic level. The quits rate fell to 2.1% is at its lowest since Aug 2020.

A sign that employers are hesitant to hire & workers are hesitant to switch to a new job

2/ pic.twitter.com/ZfGaiJh82I
— Daniel Zhao (@DanielBZhao) May 1, 2024

His conclusion: "low hires, quits and layoffs are an unusual combination that points to a certain "lock-in" in the job market. For the Fed, that is likely to tamp down wage growth driven by job switchers even if it doesn't slow net jobs growth."

Low hires, quits and layoffs are an unusual combination that points to a certain "lock-in" in the job market. For the Fed, that is likely to tamp down wage growth driven by job switchers even if it doesn't slow net jobs growth.

6/6
— Daniel Zhao (@DanielBZhao) May 1, 2024

Finally, no matter what the "data" shows, let's not forget that it is all just estimated, and it is safe to say that the real number of job openings remains still far lower since half of it - or some 70% to be specific - is guesswork. As the BLS itself admits, while the response rate to most of its various labor (and other) surveys has collapsed in recent years, nothing is as bad as the JOLTS report where the actual response rate remains near a record low 33%

In other words, more than two thirds, or 70% of the final number of job openings, is estimated!


And at a time when it is critical for Biden to still maintain the illusion that at least the labor market remains strong when everything else in Biden's economy is crashing and burning, we'll let readers decide if the admin's Labor Department is plugging the estimate gap with numbers that are stronger or weaker (we already know that they always get revised lower next month).

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/job-openings-tumble-quits-plunge-hires-unexpectedly-crater-january-2018-levels
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Job Openings Tumble, Quits Plunge, Hires Unexpectedly Crater To January 2018 Levels



After several months of relatively boring JOLTS prints, this morning Janet Yellen's favorite labor market indicator once again got exciting, and not in a good way.

Starting at the top, according to the March JOLTS reported, job openings unexpectedly tumbled by 325K - the biggest drop since October 2023 - from an upward revised 8.813 million in February to just 8.488 million, far below the 8.690 million expected - and the lowest number since February 2021 when it last printed below 8 million.

The 192K miss to estimates of 8.690 million, was the biggest since last October.

According to the DOL, in March job openings decreased in construction (-182,000) and in finance and insurance (-158,000), but increased in state and local government education (+68,000) because when all else fails, just "hire" more government zombies, ideally in the form of unionized illegal aliens to boost wages and inflation.

The kicker: construction jobs openings plunged from 456K to 274K, a 182K one-month drop and the biggest on record!

In the context of the broader jobs report, in March the number of job openings was 2.059 million more than the number of unemployed workers (which the BLS reported was 6.429 million), down significantly from last month's 2.355 million and the lowest since June 2021.

Said otherwise, in March the number of job openings to unemployed dropped to 1.32, a sharp slide from the February print of 1.36, matching the lowest level since August 2021 and almost back to pre-covid levels of 1.3.

But even more interesting than the drop in job openings was the number of quits: here we find that the number of people quitting their jobs, an indicator closely associated with labor market strength as it shows workers are confident they can find a better wage elsewhere - unexpectedly plunged by 198K, the biggest montyly drop since last June, to just 3.329 million the lowest number since January 2021!

But perhaps the most notable twist, is that amid the stagnant level of job openings, not only did the number of quits plunge - as workers no longer expect to find better paying jobs elsewhere - but so did the number of hires, which cratered by 281K to just 5.500 million - the lowest since Jan 2018 (excluding the record one-month plunge due to covid), and is now well below pre-covid levels.

Needless to say, a freeze in hiring is always the precursor to a wholesale collapse in the labor market, which we expect will materialize in 2-3 months, but since the election will determine what econ data is published, expect the US economy to be in freefall the moment Trump wins the election.

It's not just us warning on this metric: the chief economist as Glassdoor, Daniel Zhao, echoes our warning that "employers are hesitant to hire & workers are hesitant to switch to a new job"

Softness in the hires & quits rates are a concern: The hires rate fell to 3.5%, matching the lowest post-pandemic level. The quits rate fell to 2.1% is at its lowest since Aug 2020.

A sign that employers are hesitant to hire & workers are hesitant to switch to a new job

2/ pic.twitter.com/ZfGaiJh82I
— Daniel Zhao (@DanielBZhao) May 1, 2024

His conclusion: "low hires, quits and layoffs are an unusual combination that points to a certain "lock-in" in the job market. For the Fed, that is likely to tamp down wage growth driven by job switchers even if it doesn't slow net jobs growth."

Low hires, quits and layoffs are an unusual combination that points to a certain "lock-in" in the job market. For the Fed, that is likely to tamp down wage growth driven by job switchers even if it doesn't slow net jobs growth.

6/6
— Daniel Zhao (@DanielBZhao) May 1, 2024

Finally, no matter what the "data" shows, let's not forget that it is all just estimated, and it is safe to say that the real number of job openings remains still far lower since half of it - or some 70% to be specific - is guesswork. As the BLS itself admits, while the response rate to most of its various labor (and other) surveys has collapsed in recent years, nothing is as bad as the JOLTS report where the actual response rate remains near a record low 33%

In other words, more than two thirds, or 70% of the final number of job openings, is estimated!


And at a time when it is critical for Biden to still maintain the illusion that at least the labor market remains strong when everything else in Biden's economy is crashing and burning, we'll let readers decide if the admin's Labor Department is plugging the estimate gap with numbers that are stronger or weaker (we already know that they always get revised lower next month).

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/job-openings-tumble-quits-plunge-hires-unexpectedly-crater-january-2018-levels


Wait…they almost always “adjust” the number down in the following month. Almost always or quite often, take your pick.
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Sorry folks....gotta go to the link at the end of the story to view the charts. Your stomach won't thank you though.


April Payrolls Debacle: Biggest Miss Since 2021 As Unemployment Rate Rises



Ahead of today's payrolls report, in our preview we said that while we knew we would get a slowdown, the question was how big it would be (and before that we also asked if Yellen had leaked the weaker number to Japan ahead of their multiple interventions this week to prevent them from wasting tens of billions in intervention dry capital for nothing).

So the question is: did Yellen leak to the BOJ what the next NFP and CPI prints will be? https://t.co/ugDVXhDvOq
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) May 1, 2024

We got the answer moments ago when the BLS reported that in April the US added just 175K jobs, a nearly 50% drop from the upward revised 315K (was 303K), the lowest print since October 2023...

US Companies Add 192,000 Jobs in April, ADP Says


... and a two-sigma miss to estimates of 240K.

In fact, as shown below, this was the biggest miss since Dec 2021

As usual, prior data was net revised lower, with the change in total nonfarm payroll employment for February revised down by 34,000, from +270,000 to +236,000, and the change for March was revised up by 12,000, from +303,000 to +315,000. With these revisions, employment in February and March combined is 22,000 lower than previously reported.

What was behind the unexpected payrolls plunge? Blame government, which added just 8,000 jobs in April the least since Dec 2021, almost as if the government itself was goalseeking the final result.

Remarkably the result would have been even worse had it not been for a massive 363K addition from the birth death model.

It wasn't just the Establishment survey: the Household survey showed that in April, the US added just 25K jobs, a huge drop from the 498K in March...

... which means that the already record divergence between the number of people employed and those who have jobs expanded by another 150K.

The weakness was pervasive, and while payrolls were a huge miss, the unemployment rate also rose more than expected, from 3.8% to 3.9%, - the highest since January 2022 - versus estimates of an unchanged print.

The unemployment rate for Blacks (5.6 percent) decreased, offsetting an increase in the prior month. The jobless rates for adult women (3.5 percent), teenagers (11.7 percent), Whites (3.5 percent), Asians (2.8 percent), and Hispanics (4.8 percent) showed little change over the month

Despite the increase in unemployment, the participation rate was unchanged at 62.7%

Wages also eased back with average hourly earnings rising 0.2% MoM, below the expected 0.3% increase and down from last month's 0.3% print. On an annual basis, earnings rose 3.9%, down from 4.1% last month and below the 4.0% estimate.

Looking at the composition of the April job gains, the BLS notes that job gains occurred in health care, in
social assistance, and in transportation and warehousing, offset by a big slowdown in government hiring.

Health care added 56,000 jobs in April, in line with the average monthly gain of 63,000 over the prior 12 months. In April, employment continued to increase in ambulatory health care services (+33,000), hospitals (+14,000), and nursing and residential care facilities (+9,000).

Employment in social assistance increased by 31,000 in April, led by a gain in individual and family services (+23,000). Social assistance had added an average of 21,000 jobs per month over the prior 12 months.

In April, transportation and warehousing added 22,000 jobs, with gains in couriers and messengers (+8,000) and warehousing and storage (+8,000). Over the prior 12 months, employment in transportation and warehousing had shown little net change.

Employment in retail trade continued to trend up in April (+20,000). Over the prior 12 months, the industry had added an average of 7,000 jobs per month. In April, employment increased in general merchandise retailers (+10,000), building material and garden equipment and supplies dealers (+7,000), and health and personal care retailers (+5,000). Electronics and appliance retailers lost 3,000 jobs.

Construction employment changed little in April (+9,000), following an increase of 40,000 in March. Over the prior 12 months, construction had added an average of 22,000 jobs per month.


Employment in government changed little in April (+8,000). Over the prior 12 months, government had added an average of 55,000 jobs per month. In April, local government employment was unchanged, following an increase of 51,000 in March.

And visually:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/april-payrolls-unexpectedly-plunge-biggest-miss-2021-unemployment-rate-rises


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWXpIZ130s
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