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MACS Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2024, 2:23 PM EST
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Saquon Barkley signs with Eagles. Giants look like dumbasses...

Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta. He's immediately the best QB in that division.

Niners letting Arik Armstead go... boooooo.

GB letting Aaron Jones go??

What else is going on?
Palama Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2024, 2:51 PM EST
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I really thought Green Bay was gonna go with a two-headed RB beast. Aaron Jones has been a true Packer so a bit of a shocker (…at least for me…). His dynamic running style will be missed unless the team is looking to draft a shifty, lightning quick RB next month.

With that being said, even with the increased salary cap, teams still have to keep an eye out on the future. Jones has battled injuries the last couple years and he’s 29 years old. Jacobs has, iirc, been relatively injury free and he’s 26 so has the edge in two categories. The Packers probably asked Jones to take a pay cut (again) but he said no so he was released.

From a player’s perspective, pro football is a wonderful profession but a tough business.
JGKAMIN Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2024, 6:24 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Saquon Barkley signs with Eagles. Giants look like dumbasses...

Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta. He's immediately the best QB in that division.

Niners letting Arik Armstead go... boooooo.

GB letting Aaron Jones go??

What else is going on?

Eagles could’ve gotten better value by retaining Swift and not holding their breath on Barkley staying healthy and using the rest of that $ on CBs or other positions of need.
8trackdisco Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2024, 8:09 PM EST
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Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh for 1.2 million. While Denver paid him 29 million to leave.
BuckyB93 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2024, 8:42 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh for 1.2 million. While Denver paid him 29 million to leave.


Probably one of the worst deals a team signed up for not to mention the draft picks they gave up too.

It's probably up there with the Herschel Walker trade to the Vikings (Vikings giving up three first-round picks and three second-round picks - Walker lasted 3 seasons with the Vikings) or Mike Ditka when he ran the Saints team and traded his entire 1999 draft picks, plus first and third-rounders the following year to draft Ricky Williams fifth overall. Williams lasted just three seasons with the Saints.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Mar 11 2024, 11:04 PM EST
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Raiders dropped big coin on Christian Wilkins, Panthers traded DE Burns to the G Men who paid him HUGE money. The Panthers signed a guard to a 5 year 100 mil contract??

Some crazy stuff.
MACS Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 5:14 AM EST
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Yeah, that Wilson trade is looking more and more like the worst trade in history as far as ROI goes. Ooof.

85 million in dead money in Denver. Highest ever. They're gonna suck for a bit... Peyton as coach or not.
MACS Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 5:38 AM EST
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Bengals released Mixon will add Indy RB Moss.

Vikings agree to deal with Darnold... um, okay. Jefferson is gonna be wanting outa there soon, watch.
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#9 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 6:54 AM EST
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Austin Ekeler signing with Commanders on two-year deal worth $11.43M seems like a huge value to Washington to me.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 11:55 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Probably one of the worst deals a team signed up for not to mention the draft picks they gave up too.

It's probably up there with the Herschel Walker trade to the Vikings (Vikings giving up three first-round picks and three second-round picks - Walker lasted 3 seasons with the Vikings) or Mike Ditka when he ran the Saints team and traded his entire 1999 draft picks, plus first and third-rounders the following year to draft Ricky Williams fifth overall. Williams lasted just three seasons with the Saints.



Kinda up there with the Packers taking Tony Mandarich with the 2nd overall pick bypassing on Barry Sanders. Not really sure what GB scouts were doing there. Mandarich was a 'roid freak and it was all there on the film when he played @ Michigan State. Barry? Well...he was backup for Thurman Thomas...and still went on to achieve everything but a Super Bowl ring. I still to this day regard him as THE best running back ever. If he would've had the O-Line Emmitt had in Dallas he would've had 5x more yards than him. Sanders was adept with making secondary's look sluggish and slow. Smith was out of gas by the time he crossed the scrimmage line. That line literally opened holes trucks could drive through.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 11:58 AM EST
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Eagles signing Huff is a move in the right direction.

I'm glad the Bucs signed up Evans too!
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 12:08 PM EST
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Yeah Redskins got a deal with Austin and if healthy a solid upgrade from Gibson who they let walk.

Henry signs with Ravens. That could be a fearsome offense now.
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 12:10 PM EST
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The Packers put up a lot of dough for safety signing X.
Palama Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 1:17 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The Packers put up a lot of dough for safety signing X.


It’s been awhile since GB has been this active on the free agent market, especially on the first day of the frenzy. As far as the NYG safety, the Pack needed an experienced player in the backend. Their new DC likes one high safety scheme so being in position is more important than speed. Darnell Savage was fast but often times out of position so time to move on.

The news of Aaron Jones going to Minnesota makes me sad as I would have cheered for him almost regardless of where he ended up. Although I’ll still cheer for him for 15 games, those two games against the Pack will be no-nos.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 1:35 PM EST
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Jones is a good dude, now I can cheer for him for 15 games. Minnesota is probably going to draft a QB Or hopefully overpay in a trade/trade up with Chicago.
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 4:13 PM EST
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Eckler was a great value move, I think Swift was for the Bears as well. Eckler has much more upside but also age, injury history and miles as well.

Redskins signed Mariota!
BuckyB93 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 4:53 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Kinda up there with the Packers taking Tony Mandarich with the 2nd overall pick bypassing on Barry Sanders. Not really sure what GB scouts were doing there. Mandarich was a 'roid freak and it was all there on the film when he played @ Michigan State. Barry? Well...he was backup for Thurman Thomas...and still went on to achieve everything but a Super Bowl ring. I still to this day regard him as THE best running back ever. If he would've had the O-Line Emmitt had in Dallas he would've had 5x more yards than him. Sanders was adept with making secondary's look sluggish and slow. Smith was out of gas by the time he crossed the scrimmage line. That line literally opened holes trucks could drive through.


Ouch! That hurts but it is true. I forgot about the Mandarich fiasco (maybe it's a mental blockage for self preservation).

I agree with you 100% on Sanders. He was incredible. When he scored a TD he didn't so any silly dance or spiking thingy, he just handed the ball to the ref. Act like you've been there before.
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#18 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 4:59 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Probably one of the worst deals a team signed up for not to mention the draft picks they gave up too.

It's probably up there with the Herschel Walker trade to the Vikings (Vikings giving up three first-round picks and three second-round picks - Walker lasted 3 seasons with the Vikings) or Mike Ditka when he ran the Saints team and traded his entire 1999 draft picks, plus first and third-rounders the following year to draft Ricky Williams fifth overall. Williams lasted just three seasons with the Saints.

Stupid Eagles, they took somebody named Donovan instead of Ganja Ricky…booooooooo
JGKAMIN Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 5:12 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Ouch! That hurts but it is true. I forgot about the Mandarich fiasco (maybe it's a mental blockage for self preservation).

I agree with you 100% on Sanders. He was incredible. When he scored a TD he didn't so any silly dance or spiking thingy, he just handed the ball to the ref. Act like you've been there before.

Mandarich’s book ("My Dirty Little Secrets”) is an interesting read, he flamed out of the league hooked on painkillers, got himself clean and had a good comeback with the Colts.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=4073575
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 6:14 PM EST
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It was the time of physical freaks.

Guys like KGB…Alonzo Spellman then into a time with less roids with guys like Julius Peppers.

Roids can be real nasty. I wish they’d let the players use them on IR and also let them use THC instead of opioids for pain. Not of big fan of either but they do have their place if not abused.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 6:19 PM EST
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Steelers trade WR Dionte Johnson to the Panthers….Panthers are making moves and spending big bucks.
dkeage Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 6:48 PM EST
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Danielle Hunter any good?


…….asking for a friend..Anxious
MACS Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2024, 7:28 PM EST
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Good signing, fuh sho.
Palama Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 1:46 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Ouch! That hurts but it is true. I forgot about the Mandarich fiasco (maybe it's a mental blockage for self preservation).

I agree with you 100% on Sanders. He was incredible. When he scored a TD he didn't so any silly dance or spiking thingy, he just handed the ball to the ref. Act like you've been there before.


A few months ago I ran into the Sports Illustrated issues with TMand on the covers. The pre-draft issue proclaiming him as "The Incredible Bulk" and then a few years later as "The NFL's Incredible Bust". I cringed and thought "What a frickin' waste of a draft choice!" I don't remember if I trashed them 'cause Lord knows why I even kept them but I hope I immediately tossed them. To think, in addition to Barry, we coulda picked Derrick Thomas or Deion Sanders, both PFHoFers. Man, we really blew that '89 draft! d'oh!
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 4:29 PM EST
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Man did the Titans just pay through the nose for the reformed gambler Ridley.
MACS Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 4:56 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Man did the Titans just pay through the nose for the reformed gambler Ridley.


He's good... but who's gonna throw him the ball?
dkeage Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 5:23 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
He's good... but who's gonna throw him the ball?

Will Levis? Mason Rudolph?
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 7:21 PM EST
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He is good, but not that kinda money good and he’s 29 now.
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#29 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 7:54 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Henry signs with Ravens. That could be a fearsome offense now.


This was the move that made my blood curl and eventually curd. This gives them the inside track to win the whole thing.
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#30 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 8:02 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Jones is a good dude, now I can cheer for him for 15 games. Minnesota is probably going to draft a QB Or hopefully overpay in a trade/trade up with Chicago.


Vikings don't need a QB. They got Sam Darnold.
ZRX1200 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 8:04 PM EST
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LMAO

Ed Zachary.

I think the Vikqueens should trade their #1 round pick to Chicago for Justin Fields.
8trackdisco Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 8:06 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
A few months ago I ran into the Sports Illustrated issues with TMand on the covers. The pre-draft issue proclaiming him as "The Incredible Bulk" and then a few years later as "The NFL's Incredible Bust". I cringed and thought "What a frickin' waste of a draft choice!" I don't remember if I trashed them 'cause Lord knows why I even kept them but I hope I immediately tossed them. To think, in addition to Barry, we coulda picked Derrick Thomas or Deion Sanders, both PFHoFers. Man, we really blew that '89 draft! d'oh!


Unlike Rainman, Derrick Thomas was not an excellent driver.
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 8:18 PM EST
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OOOF!
Palama Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Mar 13 2024, 8:49 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Unlike Rainman, Derrick Thomas was not an excellent driver.


Shame on you
ZRX1200 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Mar 14 2024, 12:40 AM EST
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Saints release Michael Thomas.

He is the Ben Simmons of the NFL.
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#36 Posted: Thu, Mar 14 2024, 7:32 AM EST
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Palama wrote:
Shame on you


Was unbelievable when it happened. Was tough for me as I loved that player. Although not PC or nice, we all process loss and pain in different ways. My Go-To is using stark, dark humor.
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#37 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 9:55 AM EST
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Bears trade a 4th round pick to SD for Keenan Allen! I guess that was their splash move.
Palama Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 12:55 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Bears trade a 4th round pick to LAC for Keenan Allen! I guess that was their splash move.


A bit shocking as it sure looked like Allen was gonna be there the reminder of his career. Good move by the Chargers too as Keenan was in the last year of his contract. I highly doubt that Da Bears will do this but iffin’ they had the balls to draft CWilliams, have him sit behind Justin for a year then trade Fields, that could help Williams’ career rather than play him right away.

Saw that Aaron Donald retired and that the Viqueens traded with Houston to acquire another 1st round draft pick. Probably use that to move up and draft a QB.
Palama Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 1:57 PM EST
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Word is that Kenny Pickett is gonna be moved to the Eagles.

Steelers now stuck with Mr. Unlimited. Iffin’ he plays well, he’s gonna ask for a LOT of $$$ next year. If not, Pittsburgh is gonna absolutely stink for a few years.
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#40 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 3:11 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Word is that Kenny Pickett is gonna be moved to the Eagles.

Steelers now stuck with Mr. Unlimited. Iffin’ he plays well, he’s gonna ask for a LOT of $$$ next year. If not, Pittsburgh is gonna absolutely stink for a few years.

Just saw that. I certainly don't agree with getting rid of a first round QB that quick, and would keep him as a backup QB until he's ready, but I get the feeling he wanted to leave. Probably because he feels that he's ready and can do well elsewhere with a better O-line and he might be right but I doubt it. He's just not ready.
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#41 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 5:55 PM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
Just saw that. I certainly don't agree with getting rid of a first round QB that quick, and would keep him as a backup QB until he's ready, but I get the feeling he wanted to leave. Probably because he feels that he's ready and can do well elsewhere with a better O-line and he might be right but I doubt it. He's just not ready.


Still gonna be 2nd string in Philly so he’s in the same boat. Well, actually, mebbe a worse situation. Wilson is on the backend of his career whereas Hurts in only in his 5th season and 25 years old. Iffin’ Pickett had a modicum of patience, he could have waited this season out and see how Mr. Unlimited performed. Either Russ would be great and price himself out of Pittsburgh or he would have been mediocre and not re-signed. But apparently Kenny has 0 patience (…and self awareness…) and couldn’t handle being relegated to 2nd string. It’s his second time not handling a demotion very well. Tomlin and Khan probably had enough of his immaturity and shipped him out before his cancerous attitude infected the locker room.
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#42 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 6:02 PM EST
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Wow I hadn’t seen Donald retiring…..dang.

Well that’s sure gonna get the Lambs some cap space.

Yeah I had a mixed reaction to Keenan, he had stated that he wanted to retire a Charger and might just retire if a trade came up. Like him a lot but a 4th rounder for a possible 1 year rental? They have cap room but man.
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#43 Posted: Fri, Mar 15 2024, 6:09 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Still gonna be 2nd string in Philly so he’s in the same boat. Well, actually, mebbe a worse situation. Wilson is on the backend of his career whereas Hurts in only in his 5th season and 25 years old. Iffin’ Pickett had a modicum of patience, he could have waited this season out and see how Mr. Unlimited performed. Either Russ would be great and price himself out of Pittsburgh or he would have been mediocre and not re-signed. But apparently Kenny has 0 patience (…and self awareness…) and couldn’t handle being relegated to 2nd string. It’s his second time not handling a demotion very well. Tomlin and Khan probably had enough of his immaturity and shipped him out before his cancerous attitude infected the locker room.

I agree. I think he expressed wanting to leave, so the Steelers obliged and was happy to trade him to a team with an established first string QB which screws him over. He deserves it. Whatever is going on, I'm sure he's showing his immaturity and making bad decisions that will hurt his career. He must think he's better than he is.
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#44 Posted: Sat, Mar 16 2024, 1:26 AM EST
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Tyron Smith to sign with the J-E-T-S! Jets, Jets, Jets! Guess that means David Bahktiari isn’t gonna be AR8’s blindside protector.

Sam Howell traded to Seattle. Guess that means whoever they draft is gonna start.
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#45 Posted: Sat, Mar 16 2024, 8:08 AM EST
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JGKAMIN wrote:
Stupid Eagles, they took somebody named Donovan instead of Ganja Ricky…booooooooo


Don't forget taking Jalen Reager over Justin Jefferson ! d'oh!
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#46 Posted: Sat, Mar 16 2024, 5:51 PM EST
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Justin Fields to Pittsburgh.
ZRX1200 Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Mar 16 2024, 8:09 PM EST
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Ouch…..can’t believe they couldn’t get more, should have moved him earlier.
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#48 Posted: Sun, Mar 17 2024, 6:31 AM EST
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Honestly, I saw flashes with Fields. I think if he had a supporting cast (or at least some friggin' help) he would be a good QB.

IMO, they should have traded that pick and used the capital to get better players around him. But WTF do I know? I think they're going to ruin Caleb Williams, now.
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#49 Posted: Sun, Mar 17 2024, 9:09 AM EST
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The Bears only got a 5th round pick for him? Quite a fall. He’s probably a middle of the pack or better QB vs the rest of the starters in the. NFL.

Putting all their eggs in the Caleb Williams basket isn’t something I would do. There have been far more USC flop QBs than success stories.
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#50 Posted: Sun, Mar 17 2024, 10:29 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
The Bears only got a 5th round pick for him? Quite a fall. He’s probably a middle of the pack or better QB vs the rest of the starters in the. NFL.

Putting all their eggs in the Caleb Williams basket isn’t something I would do. There have been far more USC flop QBs than success stories.


How many rookies tore it up in the NFL?
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