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Le HockeyDad’s Return to Florida Journey
HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted:
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Here we go again. This will be the third time in my life I moved to Florida. I left Tampa 7.5 years ago for a job in Silicon Valley.

We are building a new house. Permitting took three months and the builder is now breaking ground. ETA Jan-Mar for completion.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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I heard Tank moved out there somewhere too... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#3 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Here we go again. This will be the third time in my life I moved to Florida. I left Tampa 7.5 years ago for a job in Silicon Valley.

We are building a new house. Permitting took three months and the builder is now breaking ground. ETA Jan-Mar for completion.


Maybe the last move?

Three months for permitting... problems with the bunker addition or $pecial Permitting costs?

I hope all goes well with building the new house, unfortunately home building contractors are lying perpetual optimists.
deadeyedick Offline
#4 Posted:
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Yep, good luck on the build time-line and hope it goes smoothly. We prolly should have a lottery contest on the move in date? Think
MACS Offline
#5 Posted:
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I'm going on record and saying July-August.

How far away you gonna be?
HockeyDad Offline
#6 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I'm going on record and saying July-August.

How far away you gonna be?


Maybe three hours. Should be able to see launches from Kennedy Space Center from the backyard while having a cigar.
BuckyB93 Offline
#7 Posted:
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Last house I had built was a dream house at the time. The plan was the family would live there until our dying days or until it was time to step down to something smaller when the kids were on their way and the adults were retiring. It was back around 2004. In hindsight, everyone was riding housing bubble before it popped a few years later. The house and landscaping was supposed to be completed around Thanksgiving time frame. We sold our previous house in late summer and added the stipulation that were going to be there until mid November.

As the fall came upon us the new house was lagging and due to the weather it would not be completed until March of the following year. WTF? As time went on, builders pissed me off. They were trying to build new houses in the same development in the same time frame and bit off more than they can chew. We ended up withholding money until it was complete to our satisfaction.

Sadly we had to put our stuff in storage and move in with the in-laws for about 4 moths over the winter until our house was completed. That's another tale for another time.

Morale of the story, I really don't trust builders at their word anymore.

Hopefully your project goes much smoother than the one I went through.
HockeyDad Offline
#8 Posted:
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Permits was estimated to be 2-3 months and we hit that. Now we’ll see about actual construction.

The plan is this is our last move.
Gene363 Offline
#9 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Permits was estimated to be 2-3 months and we hit that. Now we’ll see about actual construction.

The plan is this is our last move.


But, government departments are more reliable than home builders. Sick

(I cannot believe I just typed that, but there is is.)
Gene363 Offline
#10 Posted:
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Not trying to be negative Nancy about home building. I think you have enough experience with home builders, more a warning to anyone reading this thinking it would be great to build their own house. It's worthwhile to consult an architect and review published home plans.
MACS Offline
#11 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Permits was estimated to be 2-3 months and we hit that. Now we’ll see about actual construction.

The plan is this is our last move.


What's that show that builds homes in Florida? 100 day dream home? Shoulda been on that show.
HockeyDad Offline
#12 Posted:
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This will be our first and last time building from just dirt. Owned plenty of homes but not built from scratch!
rfenst Offline
#13 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
... Should be able to see launches from Kennedy Space Center from the backyard while having a cigar.

Absolutely! With zero doubt. I have been watching from Orlando since Space Shuttle. fog

I love whenever I see launches, booster separations and booster returns towards landings. And you will be closer with a better view!

Best of all, there will be launches down-range in your direction.

rfenst Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
Not trying to be negative Nancy about home building. I think you have enough experience with home builders, more a warning to anyone reading this thinking it would be great to build their own house. It's worthwhile to consult an architect and review published home plans.

I think he is buying in a planned development from a known developer, not just an individual contractor...
HockeyDad Offline
#15 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I think he is buying in a planned development from a known developer, not just an individual contractor...


Yes.

Planned development. Semi custom builder that operates in many states. 24 hour manned gated community to keep rif-raf like Mr Jones out.
Gene363 Offline
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rfenst wrote:
I think he is buying in a planned development from a known developer, not just an individual contractor...


Fingers crossed that makes a difference.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted:
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Is your garage gonna be big enough for your golfcar too..?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Yes.

Planned development. Semi custom builder that operates in many states. 24 hour manned gated community to keep rig-raf like Mr Jones out.



You should build one of the cupola things with mounted 50 cal just in case... Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
#19 Posted:
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I thought you just moved to AUSTIN , TEXAS??

WTF?
deadeyedick Offline
#20 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Yes.

Planned development. Semi custom builder that operates in many states. 24 hour manned gated community to keep rif-raf like Mr Jones out.


Iffn ya think a gated community keeps them out you are wrong. They say "gated huh, thats where the good stuff is".
Mr. Jones Offline
#21 Posted:
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I know you just moved to TEXAS !!!
MACS Offline
#22 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Iffn ya think a gated community keeps them out you are wrong. They say "gated huh, thats where the good stuff is".


Pitbulls and pew pews, baby...
HockeyDad Offline
#23 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Is your garage gonna be big enough for your golfcar too..?? Huh


We are planning on purchasing our first EV. It will be a golf cart and has its own berth in the garage! I may attach a Mr Microphone to it to make fart noises.
HockeyDad Offline
#24 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I know you just moved to TEXAS !!!

Yes, we moved from The San Francisco area to Houston last November. Houston was never going to be a long term gig. They just made us an offer we couldn’t refuse!

We did house hunt a fair amount around Houston and hill country before deciding to return to Florida. If we stayed here we prolly would have bought acreage a built a hobby farm!
rfenst Offline
#25 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Iffn ya think a gated community keeps them out you are wrong. They say "gated huh, thats where the good stuff is".

My neighborhood is surrounded by an 8' brick wall and it changes the private-gate entry-pad code every 90 days. We all have remote openers or use the ones in our cars to get in. Haven't had a burglary or major crime in 25 years. It won't stop anyone who wants to get in, but it does keep the street quieter and makes it more difficult for outsiders cruising around (and some presumably checking out opportunities). Only downside is maintenance cost of the street since we have to privately own it and therefore can't get the county to pay for upkeep because it excludes non-residents.
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
We are planning on purchasing our first EV. It will be a golf cart and has its own berth in the garage! I may attach a Mr Microphone to it to make fart noises.

I'll buy you a Whoopee-Cushion.
BuckyB93 Offline
#27 Posted:
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Not sure I would like to live in a neighborhood surrounded by 8 foot brick walls with an electronically monitored entrance and a 24/7/365 policed gate. Kinda sounds like a closed off military complex.
HockeyDad Offline
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Not sure I would like to live in a neighborhood surrounded by 8 foot brick walls with an electronically monitored entrance and a 24/7/365 policed gate. Kinda sounds like a closed off military complex.


You gonna shell out for the ten foot walls?! I was born on a military complex.

tailgater Offline
#29 Posted:
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Heck. My neighborhood couldn't even keep Frankie T out.

frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Heck. My neighborhood couldn't even keep Frankie T out.


truth, and I didn't hafta "pole" vault to get in...and now the bastid is threatening to leave!
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Not sure I would like to live in a neighborhood surrounded by 8 foot brick walls with an electronically monitored entrance and a 24/7/365 policed gate. Kinda sounds like a closed off military complex.

Red brick with columns and decorative masonry pattern. Looks classy. Keeps noise down too and people don't try to climb in. They instead go through the front gate were we have security cameras. May sound a but uppity, but this type of neighborhood is actually common in decent Florida PUD/single developers neighborhoods.
Ram27 Offline
#32 Posted:
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Hockey 🏒 I assume you are having "Gold Tiolets " installed?Think
delta1 Offline
#33 Posted:
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with bidets, even!

https://buyersguide.org/bidets/t/seat?m=e&d=c&c=649600971055&p=&oid=kwd-328352011092&lp



good luck with your new home, Bro!
Speyside2 Offline
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90 degrees, 85% humidity. Yeah, that sounds like a really appealing place to eventually retire in. Maybe you can sell golfcarts equipped with pitchforks.
Gene363 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
with bidets, even!

https://buyersguide.org/bidets/t/seat?m=e&d=c&c=649600971055&p=&oid=kwd-328352011092&lp



good luck with your new home, Bro!


It would be a crappy decision not to install them. At the very least, an electrical outlet adjacent to each toilet.
Stogie1020 Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
It would be a crappy decision not to install them. At the very least, an electrical outlet adjacent to each toilet.

I bet he poo-poos the idea.
tonygraz Offline
#37 Posted:
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He's been keeping a secret-----he's in love with Manatees.
HockeyDad Offline
#38 Posted:
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Ram27 wrote:
Hockey 🏒 I assume you are having "Gold Tiolets " installed?Think


I gotta admit that the toilets in our remodel in California were the best I’ve even had. When we did that remodel we never expected to be moving for at least ten years.
HockeyDad Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
90 degrees, 85% humidity. Yeah, that sounds like a really appealing place to eventually retire in. Maybe you can sell golfcarts equipped with pitchforks.


It’s a horrible awful place. You also get alligators in your pool every day.
DrafterX Offline
#40 Posted:
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Then alligator steaks on da grill every night.. ThumpUp
Ram27 Offline
#41 Posted:
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....best of luck with new home purchase. Herfing
ZRX1200 Offline
#42 Posted:
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^ awful nice considering he didn’t kiss da Rammie Ring and ask for you advise/blessing on this purchase.

Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#43 Posted:
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HD will prolly need an end table humidor for his new place... Ram can help with that... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Then alligator steaks on da grill every night.. ThumpUp


Gator good - tastes like chickens.
BuckyB93 Offline
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I've had gator once at some dinner thingy at some restaurant in Framingham, MA. Had to buy tickets a month in advance. They served various themes once a week each month. The theme we signed up for was a 5 course meal of various game meat and various wine that coupled with it. If I remember correctly one of the servings was some gater meat as an appetizer. Could also choose frog legs, some cheese and sausage platter, some other stuff on the list. I did gator, others in my party chose other selections like frog legs and stuff. We all shared the picks.

For main course it was some elk, or bison, or some bird thing, or some fish thing. Again we all ordered different stuff to pass around and share. I was OK with that and we all sampled everything they brought us.

Based in that limited taste input, I probably not go out of my way to order another gator meal.

I did like the elk and bison meals that they created. The bird meat was good to (forget what bird it was). Fish meals, I didn't even try. I've not had a fish meal that I would like to try again. My taste buds don't like to eat fish, seafood, or mostly anything that lives in the water.
rfenst Offline
#46 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Then alligator steaks on da grill every night.. ThumpUp

Protected species requiring a permit for non-wildlife department citizens to trap or hunt. Can't even touch them without getting in trouble. Got to call government to take care of a problem- and then they hire a trapper/hunter who gets to keep the dead alligator for meat and hide...
rfenst Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
90 degrees, 85% humidity. Yeah, that sounds like a really appealing place to eventually retire in. Maybe you can sell golfcarts equipped with pitchforks.

That areal of Central Florida also gets a particularly amazing amount of rain.
HockeyDad Offline
#48 Posted:
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With climate change pretty soon all those alligators will migrate to Virginia.
tonygraz Offline
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And then the crocodiles will migrate to Florida if there is any shallow water.
tailgater Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
He's been keeping a secret-----he's in love with Manatees.


Heck. Who isn't?
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